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Roberts?

First of all, I want to say it is GOOD to be back. I have been talking with friends, arguing with Billy Werndl (of the Mighty 1090), and generally driving my wife nuts while talking about the Padres (she doesn’t want to hear my analysis).

My first installment isn’t going to be that long but I wanted to get something off my chest…

Kevin Towers has talked about his ‘Woody Williams for Ray Lankford’ trade as being his worst deal as the Padres’ GM. However, his acquisition of Dave Roberts may end up trumping the Williams deal.

Think about it for a moment:

- The Padres traded a poor-performing outfielder, Jay Payton, with a supposedly bloated contract ($4m) but who has a decent offensive history.

- The Padres kicked in $2.65m to get the deal done.

- The Padres threw in a pitching prospect (not a top one, but one that had performed well).

Of those last two I could see offering Boston one or the other. But remember the newest axiom is roster-assembly is retaining financial flexibility. The rule of thumb is that if you are unloading a bad contract you pitch in money or prospects. NOT BOTH! Especially since Towers was not making another ‘Brian Giles’ type deal; bringing in an upper-tier offensive player.

Towers acquired an outfielder who relies on speed, who has never played more than 127 games in a season – mostly because of leg injuries, who has a career on-base average of .335 (Roberts notched only one season with a .350+ OBA – .353 in 2002).

And maybe most disconcerting, is the decision to make Roberts the leadoff hitter. We want a career .335 on-base guy batting leadoff?

Now, do not make the mistake of assuming that I do not like Roberts. He has a lot of attributes that are VERY desirable:

- He plays a good defensive centerfield – which we need at PETCO.

- His career BB/SO total is 141/158.

- His career stolen base/caught stealing totals are 135/32 (Roberts has been successful 80.8% of his attempts – the break-even point for stolen base attempts is roughly 70-75%).

So Roberts does have redeemable qualities.

One last thing, last year en route to their first World Series title in 86 years, Boston made a big trade. They traded away SS Nomar Garciapara for the lesser-hitting but better fielding Orlando Caberra and slick-fielding Doug M… at first base. Boston GM, Theo Epstein, deduced that Nomar’s lack of glove would inhibit the Red Sox from winning a world championship. Whether or not Boston would have won with Nomar, we don’t know. But it in the same fashion, Kevin Towers decided that San Diego needed more defensive range in CF. While I don’t disagree, I just think we over-spent to get Roberts.

The most basic building block in business is “buy low, sell high.” Dave Roberts had just stolen a base in the playoffs that was very “money” and did it with the whole baseball world watching. Payton on the other hand had one of his worst offensive season in his career while playing centerfield for the first time in a long time.

The Padres drove down the value of Payton then flipped him for an over-priced shiny role player whose team had just won the World Series. Kevin bought high and sold low.

Again I don’t have a problem acquiring a player like Roberts. I just think Theo Epstein played Kevin Towers like a chump. As a Padres fan that scares me.

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  1. LynchMob
    12:44 pm on March 15th, 2005

    Welcome back, Peter! YES!

    Good start … I can tell that Roberts deal has been eating at you … and you’re not alone. I read a comment somewhere recently that implied that the Towers has admitted it was poor move.

  2. Peter
    1:28 pm on March 15th, 2005

    Towers’ admitted he overspent, but implied that it was needed. Guzman apparently failed in his mid-season debut last year. Are we to assume he couldn’t hit .265/.333/.400 – I don’t know Roberts’ slugging rate off the top of my head, but those numbers are his career batting average & on-base average. And Guzman offers more range in CF.

  3. LynchMob
    5:26 pm on March 15th, 2005

    Right now, Guzman’s not healthy … elbow issues. I saw Freddy play in Portland last year and the guy is FAST, fun FAST! It’s not obvious he could hit .265/.333 right now in the bigs … BP’s 50% PECOTA projection is .244/.309 … I think, at this point, now that the milk has been spilt (ie. we’ve traded for Roberts), we’re OK with going with him for 2005 full time and hoping that another year at AAA will turn Freddy into his replacement for 2006 and beyond.

  4. Peter
    5:54 pm on March 15th, 2005

    There’s no question that now with Freddy out and with a lack of ‘other’ options within the organization it is nice to have a ‘Dave Roberts’ type of player. That doesn’t mean the it was good deal. Not to sound like I’m whining, but if he hadn’t traded for Roberts, we’d still have Payton as Guzman’s backup until Freddy was ready. I’m hoping Freddy’s play encourages more PT sooner rather than later and that Guzman makes a quick return from his elbow injury.

  5. Jeremy1Esq
    6:39 pm on March 22nd, 2005

    Without Roberts, the team would not be receiving the consideration it is to win the west. It was a move that had to be made in order for the team to take the next step up.

  6. Peter
    11:38 pm on March 22nd, 2005

    I’m not sure that’s accurate… And in any case, I’d rather win the West than get consideration for it by the major media types…

    Roberts is known for his speed and defense, but will he play enough to be the determining factor? And if he does play enough, will we see an on-base average like the .353 he posted in 2002, or more like the .320ish ones he posted in ‘03 & ‘04?

    Like I pointed out in another post, Burroughs got on base with a .348 clip last year. I’m afriad that at the end of the season we’ll have wished Dave got on base that frequently…

  7. Ian Matheson
    12:00 am on March 23rd, 2005

    Roberts will need to put up a career year for this trade to make sense. I really think Towers did it strictly because he didn’t want to lead off any of the other starters. Burroughs is obviously not the answer. Who else would be? Khalil? Check out the Pads breakdown at http://www.friarflogger.blogspot.com

  8. Peter
    12:50 pm on March 23rd, 2005

    In today’s column, I linked to the Baseball Think Factory article, they have Khalil’s numbers (in 85) AB as a leadoff hitter. I’d lead off with Loretta… I don’t have the #’s in front of me, but bat Roberts 2nd, he should be able to avoid the DP…

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